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Shanghai & other exotic travel: take care - the flu outbreak in Mexico is a major concern even though I am near Seattle and always stay clear of flu & colds.

I know TPC is on top of these things too - 60+ deaths already & outbreaks in Texas & California.

Here is an article from Natural News.com:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026125.html

Posted by C Love at April 25, 2009 7:06 AM

Tom, don't eat any fruit in the Shanghai airport. I spent the most miserable 14 hours of my life flying back from Shanghai a few years ago after sampling the airport lounge fare. The one cool thing about the trip was I arrived the same hour I left. I wish I could do that all the time.

Posted by John O'Leary at April 25, 2009 9:46 PM

Hi Mr. Peters,

I hope Shanghai worked out like it did here in The Netherlands and that all the nervousness was for nothing!

Take care.

Jan

Posted by Nyenrode & Southwest at April 26, 2009 10:38 AM

Love your books and style, next time give me more warning when you're in Shanghai so I can make sure I am here... I will be back in Shanghai on the 30th if you're still around...

Cheers,

Jeffrey

Posted by Jeffrey at April 27, 2009 8:00 AM

Love the Excellence slideshow...I couldn't help thinking, when I saw your slide on "Mediocrity', about my father's definition of being mediocre -

"you are either the best of the worst or the worst of the best."

Neither is appealing...

Posted by John at April 27, 2009 11:01 AM

Bravo to your dad, John. Thanks for that. Being mediocre sucks big.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 27, 2009 11:27 AM

By the way, being mediocre for me means not striving towards a more excellent way of being, personally or professionally.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 27, 2009 11:30 AM

Judith, your definition is right on. Dad's meaning of mediocrity was always in the context of "settling" for something other than personal best effort in an undertaken task. And, that task, to him, was a signature of who we were or were becoming. He did not give half effort and didn't expect his family to either.

Posted by John at April 27, 2009 2:32 PM

Beautiful, John. Your words are much appreciated. We are forever becoming... something or another, moving forward or backward. But there is no constant middle; there is only movement.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 27, 2009 2:57 PM

Fabulous picture Tom/Cathy - thanks.

Posted by Trevor Gay at April 27, 2009 5:29 PM

Hey Trevor I believe there was a big event in London on Sunday last. Where are the pictures of you and Annie? Please send a link to some so we can all see you in your moment of triumph.

No I don't means those boring pictures of you and Annie running 26.2 miles - that is long long way - and nearly dying in the process.

What we all want to see is the pictures of you and Annie tucking into that huge pile - hope it was huge - of fish n chips!

Well done old mate....

Cheers, Richard.

Posted by Richard Lipscombe at April 27, 2009 5:48 PM

Marathons: "Now, it was beating Oprah. Her time of four hours and 29 minutes -- the Oprah Line -- became the new benchmark for a respectable race. (That was P. Diddy's goal when he ran New York.)"

Tweets out of London confirm a 5:32 time for our boy Trevor. A valant almost 13 minute per mile jaunt pace - a walk in the park if you will.

Leading up to the run though Trevor was all "... I'll kick that fat backside of Oprah in this race ... that giant pant load is going down to this British gentleman form Shakespeare country ..." he chanted again & again to anyone who whould listen or take notice.

Now given Oprah in effect lapped our boy Trevor - he has been sentenced to 1 year as butler to Oprah - at one of her mansion-homes to be disclosed later!

Have fun out there & stay calm & healthful - best wishes TG! :>)

Posted by C Love at April 27, 2009 8:14 PM

Fish and Chips pics will be published in due course Richard :-)

C Love - 5.32 is acceptable for an oldie my friend. Thanks for your words of wisdom as always. Butler to Oprah will be good - what's the pay rate? :-)

Posted by Trevor Gay at April 27, 2009 8:22 PM

"C-Love...Thanks for your words of wisdom as always."

WOW!!! That's not what several emails addressed to me have said. The more things change the more they stay the same.

Trevor - Shall I post those unsolicited "private" emails which speak so despairingly about C-Love? I say what I want to say here. But I wonder how many others have received such emails from you about other community members--even those which seemingly ask innocuous questions like: I wonder why people aren't posting on TP's blog? Or, words written on another blog which speak of how "boring" TP's blog is becoming and why you are not commenting, even though you had indeed been. UGH!

By the way, you may post any of my non-private replies or non-replies. Try the latter--impossible, eh?

When "g" posted rather nasty comments here a year ago that you had written about me to him, while writing the exact opposite to me, you wrote here and in more than a few emails to me that your words were taken out of context. OK, no problem. But it now appears that this is just how you roll. This is shameful stuff. There appears to be tons of shame in your game. I'm DONE with this, but it seems that "g" was right to expose your rather eel-like people-pleasing nature. BARF!

I sincerely ask that the community will forgive me in advance for addressing this issue here. But in some regard this feels like a community matter, but perhaps not. If not, I will gladly take my raps on the knuckles and not do so again.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 28, 2009 2:33 AM

Amsterdam hands down....

Posted by patrick at April 28, 2009 2:36 AM

Judith – I engage in many private email discussions as we all do. I will leave it to Tom to decide whether your words are appropriate for the whole TP Community. In the meantime I rest easily.

Posted by Trevor Gay at April 28, 2009 4:22 AM

Ah jeez, fellas... c'mon... play nice, please.

Are there no limits to my trouble-making? Even when not here I seem to be a problem. Never my intent.

Busy elsewhere, I'm not really in the mood for this. And, as the morphine in the pain-meds has just kicked-in, it'd be a pity to waste that mild-opiate-buzz by writing something sensible. But, I'll try.

From memory (and it was all sooooooo long ago), I wasn't 'exposing anything'. Whatever. Can't we all get along nicely?

Trevor's a decent guy. With more like him and less like me, things'd be smoother all round.

'T-the-eel.' New nickname there. Gotta smile.

Hugs'n'kisses.

:-)

Posted by g at April 28, 2009 5:18 AM

To paraphrase Jed Clampett: "Nineteen million folks in such a small place? They sure must like each other a lot!"

Posted by Useless Sam Grant at April 28, 2009 10:44 AM

LOL, USG!

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 28, 2009 11:28 AM

Tom,

With the pig stuff being tossed around, and the swine virus taking over financial markets and airlines, please refrain from wiping down toilets and keep your seat in an upright position! You might want to wipe down the tray table.

Cheers and safe travels. Trevor is a great guy with good intentions.

CLove----You are a man/woman to love, hate, disparage, laugh at, laugh with, and a wonderful blogger to boot. Forgive me if I hate you today, for I'll love you tomorrow.

Posted by Scott Peters at April 28, 2009 1:42 PM

"Wisdom" that Trevor mentions surely is in a facetious way - I get the joke :>).

Some English also use "brilliant" often & it has a more common meaning than in the USA.

I think you make a good point Judith about who & what is authentic day to day. That is the "brilliance" of the cyber world - authentic wins out & deviance from that is easy to discover.

Stay healthful, rested & calm out there!

PS - Trevor - a year serving & observing Oprah is worth a fortune in experiences though you get just room & board & all you can eat. :>)

Posted by C Love at April 28, 2009 7:44 PM

"C-Love----You are a man/woman to love, hate, disparage, laugh at, laugh with, and a wonderful blogger to boot. Forgive me if I hate you today, for I'll love you tomorrow."

This is the lamest excuse for eel-like childish back-biting behavior that I have read. Trevor's words were: "C-Love...Thanks for your words of wisdom AS ALWAYS." That's quite different from what's written above or written to me via unsolicited emails.

Scott Peters must have missed the post on apologies. The thing with apologies is that they should indicate a change in behavior. Such is not the case here--obviously. Furthermore, good intentions are judged by actions not by the words of others.

By the way, I've only read free-flowing love emitting from Scott Peters to C-Love on this blog. But it's all good, even though the reverse seems often not to be the case in spite of the effusive nature of the former's comments. Unrequited love is a bitch. :-)

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 28, 2009 7:45 PM

Oh, C-Love, perhaps you are more of a gentleman than perhaps thought. This is nice indeed.

I agree with your authenticity comment in the cyber world. But it is very difficult not to be transparent in writing over a long period of time. Transparency seeps out in all kinds of ways and through many expressions.

While we can hide behind anonymity in the short run, over long periods of time on blogs and via emails we get a real sense of who people are. We have had this conversation here before regarding communication and the web.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 28, 2009 8:11 PM

Sample questions to ask Saint Peter at the kingdom of heaven:

1. Did Oswald act alone?
2. What happened to Jimmy Hoffa?
3. Can I levitate & fly around now?
4. Who is C Love & did he do the crop circles?
5. Did you block Trevor's emails like C Love did years ago? :>)

Posted by C Love at April 28, 2009 8:29 PM

"3. Can I levitate & fly around now?"

LOL!

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 28, 2009 8:40 PM

Can "online communiites" be managed? What does "online community" mean to you? Do you want/have a Director of Community?

Is an email conversation merely an extension of a comment online? When is an email purely spam? When do you consider an "unsolicited email" is integral to an ongoing online conversation?

What are the shared values of your online communities and how do you honor them? What passes as an acceptable signiture, name, or identifier within your online community? What rules of argument, discussion, and debate are followed within your online communities?

Are "fish n chips" available off the free list of the NHS? If not why not?

I have been grappling with those sorts of questions over the past 2 years. Answers anyone?

Cheers, Richard (sorry no love left in me - I gave at the office).

Posted by Richard Lipscombe at April 28, 2009 8:41 PM

overnight delivery for viagra

Wait... hold on... did I hear somebody mention "all you can eat" being part of the Oprah butler gig?

Heyyyyy... Trevor, let me borrow your passport and identification. I'll fill in for you.

What are friends for?

Posted by Dan Gunter at April 28, 2009 9:43 PM

"Wisdom" that Trevor mentions surely is in a facetious way - I get the joke :>).

PS - Trevor - a year serving & observing Oprah is worth a fortune in experiences though you get just room & board & all you can eat. :>)

C Love - I think you and I understand each other now ... although we didn't always - and yes I meant 'wisdom' as a joke. By the way I accept the Oprah job. Fish and Chips were wonderful.

Posted by Trevor Gay at April 29, 2009 1:12 AM

What about the TP comments online and otherwise? Your half-hearted public admittance -- "although we didn't always" -- is half there. Keep going, Trevor. You just may just do yourself some good.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 29, 2009 5:02 AM

I love & hopefully live by the comment of Jack Nicholson - "I love it when I wake up & realize I have been totally wrong about something - it sets me free." Wonder how many of us deal with the discomfort of that & crave the penance that follows?

The Antarctic continent is building ice like there is no tomorrow but most "scientists" have their own global agenda? Free trade is "heavenly" but no border control spreads pandemics like wildfire? Up is down & down is up & lets fly by the Statue of Liberty for a photo op? Mini me Napalitano shall take care of us as Homeland queen - no concern there?

Posted by C Love at April 29, 2009 6:17 AM

"Free trade is "heavenly" but no border control spreads pandemics like wildfire?"

C-Love - You're sounding increasingly like the apparently crazed neurotic, Glen Beck. The swine flu non-pandemic (yet!) had NOTHING to do with border control BUT everything to do with AMERICAN CITIZENS who had recently traveled to Mexico.

"The Antarctic continent is building ice like there is no tomorrow but most 'scientists' have their own global agenda?"

It's also funny that you wrote this comment after having undoubtedly read as many others about the New York-sized ice that fell off Antarctica. Normal? I don't know. Are you suggesting that just as much ice has been built? Over what span of time? Link?

The Homeland queen is a bit of a joke, eh? I guess as was those kings who were oblivious before the towers came down. You have to give Napolitano a chance. She's only just begun and from what I can gather she's out in front of this issue, not behind it.

LOVE the Nicholson quote! Thanks!

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 29, 2009 10:31 AM

"Free trade is "heavenly" but no border control spreads pandemics like wildfire".

This is indeed a paradox.

Australia has set up new health controls at our borders - we are preparing for this thing the only way we know how just in case it turns out to be a pandemic. Viral viruses are to be stopped. Viral ideas, trade, marketing, leadership ideologies/models(eg big govt spending/centralise control as per Kevin Rudd in Australia), Climate "group think", etc are sweeping the world.

We want good viral events so we encourage higher and higher degrees of co-mingling. As a result we may get a pandemic. A pandemic of the type we had in the early 1900s? This is a greater threat than Climate Change right now....

Cheers, Richard.

Posted by Richard Lipscombe at April 29, 2009 4:59 PM

richard, heard something on CNN today. at time of 1918 flu antibiotics didn't exist. seems many people probably actually died of pneumonia due to weakening of body systems from the virus. the fact that we now have antibiotics will reduce number of deaths from a virus. not to diminish severity of issue, but things are different now than they were then. (of course there wasn't a lot of transatlantic/transpacific etc. air travel then, either.)

Posted by erik at April 29, 2009 5:31 PM

Richard - Your point about bad vs good virals is good. Cool connection. A brother lives in Texas and we were just talking about a week ago how in places like Houston flu bugs seem to flourish more, unlike Michigan where the seasons perhaps kill some others. Maybe this is in our heads alone and have nothing to do with viruses at all. We're not doctors. How about Australia? I was never sick when I lived there and it was HOT! Great country!

Regarding scientific group think and climate control, I dunno. I try to wrap my little non-scientific brain around all this stuff without the persuasion of ideological arguments; this is no easy feat when passion on such an issue is so high on both sides. Scientific group think is so antithetical to science itself.

By the way, co-mingling is never a real problem on the Web, but it's only half as real fun. :-)

erik - Isn't it amazing how antibotics have changed our lives? Amazing! I too was watching CNN today and listened to the WHO news conference where there was an emphasis on underdeveloped countries and pharmaceutical corporate responsibility. It seems they may be coming through for those countries unable to develop or get meds. This is great!

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 29, 2009 6:38 PM

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/29/Swine-Flu.aspx

"Swine Flu Pandemic - Fact or Fiction?"

"My guess is that you can expect to see a lot of panic over this issue in the near future. But the key is to remain calm -- this isn't the first time the public has been warned about swine flu. The last time was in 1976, right before I entered medical school and I remember it very clearly. It resulted in the massive swine flu vaccine campaign.

Do you happen to recall the result of this massive campaign?

Within a few months, claims totaling $1.3 billion had been filed by victims who had suffered paralysis from the vaccine. The vaccine was also blamed for 25 deaths.

However, several hundred people developed crippling Guillain-Barré Syndrome after they were injected with the swine flu vaccine. Even healthy 20-year-olds ended up as paraplegics.

And the swine flu pandemic itself? It never materialized.

More People Died From the Swine Flu Vaccine than Swine Flu!"

This article is by Doctor of Osteopathic medicine - Joseph Mercola.

Posted by C Love at April 29, 2009 8:08 PM

Is there even a vaccine for the swine flu? Last I heard there wasn't one. By the way, my mother refused to allow us to get vaccinated growing up and she had 12 very healthy kids. We were never sick. I remember having to go to school with a note which in part read, "My daughter is not to be vaccinated." Of course, there is a lot of talk about vaccines and autism these days; this is another polarizing controversial topic.

Posted by Judith Ellis at April 29, 2009 9:46 PM